agent Entrepreneur logo
MenuMENU
SearchSEARCH

Where’s Your Moral Compass?

Conversations with wayward finance managers prove old F&I habits die hard, including those that qualify as bank fraud.

by Gil Van Over
October 22, 2025
Where’s Your Moral Compass?

Consider if you might be crossing the moral or legal line in your decisions on the job.

Credit:

Pexels/Bakr Magrabi

4 min to read


 

An idiot shooting up a classroom full of kids. A football player driving drunk and killing his girlfriend in a crash. Depressing headlines cause one to pause and ponder the question: “Where’s your moral compass?” 

After recent conversations I’ve had with colleagues, dealers and finance sources, the same question can be asked of people in our industry.

Ad Loading...

Here are capsulations of a few such conversations:

The Forged Signature

A dealer friend called the other day to complain about having to fire a recently hired finance manager. I know this dealer runs one of the most compliant enterprises in the country. He fully stresses the importance of compliance throughout the hiring process and onboarding process.

He was particularly perturbed by two issues: First, he had just hired this person within the last month, and she had already decided to forge the customer’s signature on a contract.

But more disturbing was her reply when presented with the evidence: “I don’t see why you are making such a big deal about it. The customer’s payment stayed the same, I just forgot to have him sign the gap section on the contract, and he knew he bought gap.”

Don’t see why the manager is making a “big deal” about forging the customer’s signature? Where’s your moral compass?

Ad Loading...

The Kinked Income

A friend from the auto finance sector recently lamented about the number of buybacks the institution was faced with and the strain it was putting on its relationships with dealers. At her institution and many like it, the recovery department scrutinizes the credit application for violations of the dealer-lender agreement when an account defaults. 

Most of the buybacks were a result of the dealers misstating the customer’s income on the credit application.

Sometimes the income was simply increased. Other times the customer had two jobs, and the dealer represented the total income from the two jobs as one income from one job. There were also instances in which the fixed income was grossed up; this finance source does not permit grossing up fixed income.

My friend shared that she was amazed by the responses she received when she asked why the income was wrong. The biggest lie was, “It was an honest mistake.” The next biggest lie was, “I don’t know.” The honest answer was, “I know what your payment-to-income ratios are, and I had to adjust the income to fit the deal to your guidelines.”

In other words, lying. Where’s your moral compass?

Ad Loading...

Incidentally, the lender gets the last laugh on these transactions. All federally insured financial institutions are required by law to file a top-secret Suspicious Activity Report with their regulators whenever they suspect a transaction of bank fraud

Lying on the credit application is bank fraud. Every instance the lender finds causes this top-secret report to be filed, identifying the dealer in the “Suspect Information” portion of the report as committing bank fraud.

Everyone’s a Manager

During a recent dealership audit, I noticed that job titles on credit application submissions through Dealertrack and RouteOne were different than what the customer wrote on the credit application. For example, a Walmart greeter was promoted to “customer relations manager.”

When I asked about the differences, the employee said — with a straight face — that, “Everyone manages something in their job, so everyone is a manager.” 

In my previous life, I helped create and also managed the creation of internal scorecards for financial institutions. We used to consider job type as a partial predictor of the likelihood of default. For example, nurses got extra points because they usually paid their bills and didn’t default. The Dark Side, on the other hand, is only concerned with technical accuracy.

Ad Loading...

Yet another reason for a financial institution to file a Suspicious Activity Report and require a deal to be bought back, along with another prompt of the same old question: Where’s your moral compass

Continued good health, good luck and good selling, and while we’re at it, live long and prosper.

Gil Van Over is executive director of Automotive Compliance Education (ACE), founder and president of gvo3 & Associates and author of “Automotive Compliance in a Digital World.”

Subscribe to Our Newsletter

More F&I

F&Iby Lauren LawrenceFebruary 27, 2026

Price Driving Insurance Churn

Over half of insurance holders ages 18 to 29 reported to be 'somewhat' likely to change providers in the next 90 days, according to CivicScience, which found that interest was lower among older age groups.

Read More →
F&Iby Lauren LawrenceFebruary 25, 2026

Report Finds Year-End F&I Strength

Deal volume ebbed and flowed throughout 2025, but product performance remained steady, according to automotive technology and data intelligence solutions provider StoneEagle.

Read More →
Summit Updatesby StaffFebruary 23, 2026

Look Ahead to the Future of F&I at Agent Summit

Joel Kansanback – CEO of Strategic Dealer Advisory – will take to the stage at the 2026 event.

Read More →
Ad Loading...
F&Iby Hannah MitchellFebruary 23, 2026

Some Auto Brands Cheaper to Insure

A new top 10 list ranks the least expensive for average full insurance coverage on a clean driving record and high driver credit scores.

Read More →
Industryby Lauren LawrenceFebruary 11, 2026

Insurance Shopping on the Rise

A TransUnion study found that relationship-driven sales models proved to be important, as consumers who used an agent had a lower shopping intensity than those going it alone.

Read More →
Industryby Hannah MitchellFebruary 4, 2026

Auto Insurance Cost Reprieve

2025 brought consumers relief after years of rate hikes, but 2026 could bring renewed policy pain, depending on how U.S. trade policy affects prices.

Read More →
Ad Loading...
F&Iby Hannah MitchellJanuary 29, 2026

F&I Sales Show Affordability Pressure

An annual report on the revenue stream finds more consumers are opting out as they face high car prices and overall inflation, and it recommends tweaks to increase success.

Read More →
F&Iby Hannah MitchellJanuary 12, 2026

Auto Credit Access Loosens

December brought some of the best borrowing availability for consumers in years, though lenders tightened their reins on riskier segments of the market.

Read More →
TrainingDecember 10, 2025

Accountable Is as Accountable Does

Auto dealerships work better when all staffers own their duties.

Read More →
Ad Loading...
StoneEagle logo beside a headshot of Cindy Allen, CEO, on a pink background with a stylized upward-trending chart.
Industryby StaffDecember 5, 2025

EV Surge Shows AI Steadied Softer Q3

StoneEagleData reveals the gross reality behind the rise in EV leasing and the steady role F&I offices played.

Read More →